It's been mentioned before, but there is an assumption that the team alone decides if the player has their number retired. You need the player to buy into that as well, which some of us believe is why Chopper is part of the lame Forever a Flame program and not a full retirement. I suspect Kipper also doesn't want a big lavish ceremony. Different cat.
As for Fleury - won't get into that except to say I don't support retiring his number at all.
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