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Old 12-19-2015, 07:59 AM   #82
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And Planned Parenthood happened in between them but it's curiously dropped off the radar.
You're just an ultra-leftie. Don't you know that the whole solution is to herd all Muslims together in the deserts of the middle east and nuke them from space?



This NYTimes article talks about the issue and expands upon my point.

"But the breakdown of extremist ideologies behind those attacks may come as a surprise. Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists..."

"Non-Muslim extremists have carried out 19 such attacks since Sept. 11, according to the latest count, compiled by David Sterman, a New America program associate, and overseen by Peter Bergen, a terrorism expert. By comparison, seven lethal attacks by Islamic militants have taken place in the same period."

“Law enforcement agencies around the country have told us the threat from Muslim extremists is not as great as the threat from right-wing extremists,”

“There’s an acceptance now of the idea that the threat from jihadi terrorism in the United States has been overblown,” Dr. Horgan said. “And there’s a belief that the threat of right-wing, antigovernment violence has been underestimated.”

Then the real issue of these studies is discussed.

"If terrorism is defined as ideological violence, for instance, should an attacker who has merely ranted about religion, politics or race be considered a terrorist? A man in Chapel Hill, N.C., who was charged with fatally shooting three young Muslim neighbors had posted angry critiques of religion, but he also had a history of outbursts over parking issues. (New America does not include this attack in its count.)"

"Some Muslim advocates complain that when the perpetrator of an attack is not Muslim, news media commentators quickly focus on the question of mental illness. “With non-Muslims, the media bends over backward to identify some psychological traits that may have pushed them over the edge,” said Abdul Cader Asmal, a retired physician and a longtime spokesman for Muslims in Boston. “Whereas if it’s a Muslim, the assumption is that they must have done it because of their religion.”"

And the real issue here, in my opinion. We don't have the sack to look at the issue objectively. It is much easier to believe that brown people with different religious views than us are going to cause violence against us, than acknowledging there is just as many deranged people from within our own culture that would do harm to us to further their ideological goals.

"A 2009 report by the Department of Homeland Security, which warned that an ailing economy and the election of the first black president might prompt a violent reaction from white supremacists, was withdrawn in the face of conservative criticism. Its main author, Daryl Johnson, later accused the department of “gutting” its staffing for such research."


We can't even listen to a report that forewarns of this exact problem, because it is not politically expedient to do so. Much easier to get people worked up about an almost non-existent threat to our national security.

The money quote.

“If there’s one lesson we seem to have forgotten 20 years after Oklahoma City, it’s that extremist violence comes in all shapes and sizes,” said Dr. Horgan, the University of Massachusetts scholar. “And very often, it comes from someplace you’re least suspecting.”

Radicalism and extremism affects all religions and all ideologies. Terrorism is tactic for those without the social or economic means to get their views adopted. That is the basic issue boiled down into bite size pieces that anyone should be able to understand. The Middle East and Muslims do not have an edge on anyone when it comes to extremism or the willingness to do something extreme to make their point. The difference is how the media frames it and sets the agenda for us to focus on and understand the issue.
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