^ that was a complete list of contracts signed as RFAs, worth more than 7 M AAV. Why would Weber be excluded? It is a list based on criteria, not opinions. I didn’t hand pick guys, I chose every single contract that is where you guys are saying Tkachuk ends.
We obviously can agree to disagree.
I’m not missing your idea about paying for expectations. I don’t know why you keep saying people are missing things, naive, what have you.
Tkachuk is not a franchise center, or a center at all. Not a first overall pick, didn’t end up on a team where the team was struggling and he was the face of the franchise / saviour, for a team that desperately needed a marquee player on the ice. That’s Matthews et al. Very different players, positions, franchise situations, etc. They were already the most important player on their teams, who were also desperate.
Now you move on to wingers.
Frankly I am quite surprised that you appear to simply ignore Kucherov. He is 9.5 over 8. That isn’t dusty, the payday starts at the same time as Tkachuk’s new deal. Next year. By your argument, Yzerman paid him for not the 100 point season in the bank, but for what he expected. And then Kucherov had 1.64 x Tkachuk’s points. That’s not a player in the same conversation.
Easy question for Tre to ask Tkachuk. You going to get me 128 points? Along with ‘where’d you go down the stretch and in the playoffs, when games matter?’ Tkachuk has more to put together before he asks for UFA money as a RFA.
Why was Subban’s bridge bad for Montreal? 2 bargain years plus the next 6 at 9M is 7.4 average over 8 year.
9.5 is a big deal now because this is a team close to the cap and it is 2-almost 3 M more than they need to spend today. Creates a whole host of other cap problems. Also to go from 5 years at 7 to 8 at 9.5, you are tacking on 3 years at 13.7 million per. Yowza.
I think the list of RFAs is relevant as a data point. Sure, not the be all end all, but basically because they are contracts signed as RFAs. You can clearly see that they are not paid like UFAs, and only a couple of very special wingers are even on the entire list.
I like the player, and like you, I expect 5 years but nearer to 7 than 8, give or take.
I just don’t see committing now to outer years at an elevated level. I don’t think his defensive game is that great. It’s okay, but Backlund does a lot of the heavy lifting defensively. As centres generally do. Which is why they make more than wingers. And I don’t know if the Pre ASG scoring clip is replicable and sustainable. For him as well as the others such as Monahan, Lindholm etc.
RFAs have limited rights and you should have them prove or accomplish something before you back up the truck.
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