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Old 10-17-2022, 11:18 AM   #1340
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Can you breakout excess deaths comparing unvaccinated and vaccinated per age group?
They don't have data specifically about excess deaths, but they do have all-cause mortality by age group per 100K person years. So among UK adults under 60:

All-cause mortality unvaccinated vs. vaccinated per 100K person years:

20-24: 24.7 vs 22.3 (10.7% higher)
25-29: 37.8 vs. 30.5 (23.9% higher)
30-34: 54.3 vs 46.1 (17.8% higher)
35-39: 84.4 vs 65.6 (28.7% higher)
40-44: 131.5 vs 103.4 (27.2% higher)
45-49: 252.2 vs 166.4 (51.5% higher)
50-54: 457.7 vs 258.4 (77% higher)
55-59: 703.9 vs 408.9 (72% higher)


So as you get into the older groups, the effect becomes more pronounced. But still, in every single age band there is a significant reduction in all-cause mortality. And there is also a reduction in non-COVID mortality in every age band. And like the overall data, the groups with 3 doses in each age band have a significantly lower mortality rate than average. So if vaccines were somehow driving excess mortality (as many of the grifters like to either explicitly or implicitly suggest), then you would expect the unvaccinated to have significantly lower mortality rates, but they don't. And even if you just isolate the last few months of data, prior to which basically every unvaccinated person got "natural immunity", it's still the people with 3 doses who have the lowest all-cause mortality rate.

And that doesn't even get into the fact that the demographics of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated aren't necessarily comparable. The vaccinated group (and particularly those with 3 doses) will tend to be more vulnerable than the unvaccinated group, particularly in the younger ages. So all other things being equal, you'd expect that cohort to have a naturally higher mortality rate within each age band.

Last edited by opendoor; 10-17-2022 at 11:22 AM.
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