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Originally Posted by corporatejay
What about Grosskreutz? Haven't seen much criticism of a guy who showed up to a riot with a gun.
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Interesting. The usual suspects normally complain about "whataboutism" but here we are, whatabout Grosskreutz?
Okay, what about him? He actually legally owned the weapon he was carrying, was legally allowed to carry the weapon, and was training to carry said weapon. The only thing that Grosskreutz was guilty of was allowing his permit to lapse, which is a very common condition because permits have a five year cycle. Grosskreutz was also an EMT and was there to tend to the injured, which he did and was documented on that evening. Grosskreutz was also shown to be approaching the accused with the gun in his hand, but his hands raised and not in a position to shoot. Grosskreutz was actually shot while attempting to grab the barrel of Rittenhouse's AR15, and not in a firing position with his weapon. If Grosskreutz was intent on shooting Rittenhouse, he would have taken a shooting position, just as his training and certification would have taught him.
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
Only because, in the cast of Grosskreutz he shot first.
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Grosskreutz was never going to shoot, nor a threat to shoot. This is a guy that was schooled in how to put rounds down range. He was also abundantly aware of his responsibility of every round that left the barrel being his responsibility, self-defense or not. Hence him not using his weapon on a crowded street that was clearly a mess. As a CCW holder, you are trained not to put a round down range unless you are certain you are going to hit your target, because you are responsible for wayward rounds. Miss your target and hit a bystander, that's murder. My instructor had some very somber words for the class. If you think you're going to miss your target, don't pull the trigger. If you're going to put a round down range, make sure it hits its mark, then empty the magazine in your target. I thought he was joking at the time when he said, "Dead men can't testify against you at your self defense trial," but this trial shows there was a lot of truth in his words.
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You guys are letting your politics and opinions of gun laws get in the way of objectivity.
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Glasshouses.
The guy that was shot, by the person who illegally possessed a weapon according to Wisconsin's gun laws, is now the bad guy?