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Originally Posted by AltaGuy
Exactly how I feel about this thread: there is a dark current of "whataboutism" flowing through this thread that is both disingenuous and ugly. You can see Republicans and right-wingers prepping and practising their Fox News-style propaganda already:
- Bernie's taxes!
- Too far left!
- Lose the center!
- Ignore the workers!
- So PC!
- Too gay!
- Out of touch!
- Identity politics!1!11!
The reason why this thread has been separated from the American politics thread is that the Republican party in the states has no excuse for their shameful subversion of democracy, and so attacking Democrats is all that's left. Any discussion of Democratic candidates should be in the context of what they're up against, and in the context of American politics more generally.
I mean, it's immensely successful: Trump won the last election. HRC's character was assassinated for the better part of 30 years. Benghazi and buttery emails seemed like real things to be worried about, somehow less worrying than the many real evils of DJT.
Democrats fall into this trap time and again. No matter which candidate it is, I think they'll win, and I hope they do. But it wasn't HRC that lost the last election, it was that Republican propaganda is very powerful stuff and won it because of acceptance of reframing like is happening in this thread.
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also, Trump supporters are really really dumb.