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Old 11-14-2021, 11:37 AM   #147
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Should there not be a provision for 'reasonable force?'

Lets assume for a moment that he was pursued and 'attacked.' One guy had a plastic bag, another guy had a skateboard.

It stands to reason that their ability to inflict lethal harm upon was limited at best. Certainly not so much as someone with a rifle.

Further, they are likely reacting in fear to someone wandering around with a gun. Now in the dark and the heat of the moment, that looks like an assault rifle. To someone not well versed in guns, it looks like something a soldier would carry.

So yeah, that gun probably scared the ever-loving #### out of them and they reacted out of fear. Fear that he instilled. On purpose.

Remove the AR15 from that night and nobody ever hears the name of Kyle Rittenhouse.
I don't know if you can call it fear. Both Rosenbaum and Huber have a history that suggests they have extremely poor impulse control and are very quick to violence.

Joseph Rosenbaum:

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Rosenbaum also had open misdemeanor cases for battery (domestic abuse) and disorderly conduct (domestic abuse).

Newly released documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity with children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old. He was convicted of two amended counts as part of a plea deal.
While in jail, for what are hardcore acts of rape of children, Rosenbaum was cited multiple times with attacking staff.

Anthony Huber:

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Huber had a disorderly conduct conviction from 2018 as a domestic abuse repeater, which is a misdemeanor. He gave a Kenosha address. Here are the charges in that case.

940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Dismissed on Prosecutor’s Motion
Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
2 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater
He also had a forfeiture case for possessing drug paraphernalia.
He also had a case from 2012 with these charges:

1 941.30(2) 2nd-Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety Felony G Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 939.63(1)(c) Use of a Dangerous Weapon
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

2 940.235(1) Strangulation and Suffocation Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

3 940.30 False Imprisonment Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(b) Use of a Dangerous Weapon
4 940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

5 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

6 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/20...osha-shooting/


You've got a pretty extreme powder keg there. A dip#### teenager who's recently gotten into the ideology of the proud boys.

He's then confronted by a group of people with their own history of extreme violence and poor impulse control.

Then you've got the gun laws that allow teenagers to walk around with assault riffles, and a police force who's essentially deputized them.
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