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Originally Posted by Yamer

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Speaking of Thanos, I felt they really undid a lot of the work they had done on the character in the first film. I get that it's part of the time shift and the character from the past wouldn't have been as developed, but he just felt hollow. And he wasn't nearly as imposing.

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I think this was by design. This wasn't the Thanos from the first movie, it was a Thanos from a different universe / timeline.

The Thanos we saw was a Thanos that had grief and remorse. Both his daughters had turned on him, he had sacrificed Gamora, and he seemed to be more remorseful about his action overall but knew it was his destiny.

This Thanos was different. He was still more in his "world destroyer" phase where he was happy to go and execute half the population with brute force. He then saw that while he was victorious in the "main timeline" his plan didn't work, he ended up dead, and saw that the universe was actually worse off post snap.

He now had a different goal - to eliminate all life and crush the Avengers.

It's funny because we all liked the Thanos in Infinity War that showed some character growth from the guy that ruthlessly attacked Thor at the start to the end of the movie, to the guy that was consoling Scarlet Witch at the end of the movie. This Thanos didn't have that character growth so was more of a one note villian, and maybe didn't work as well because we already saw the better version.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

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I don't know, I mean I love the idea of Steve Rogers and Peggy Carter. But by going back, he killed off a long marriage and family that she had.

He also could have prevented the penetration of shield by Hydra and didn't.

It was lovely in terms of the whole man goes back and reshapes the past for the woman he loves, but he allows untold suffering to happen to do it.

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There is actually a bit of room for interpretation here and we actually don't know how they handled this.

If you believe that Steve didn't time travel again at the end and was in this universe from when he was with Peggy then there is the theory that this was always the plan all along.

When Peggy references her husband and kids on her death bed she was referencing this Steve Rogers. She was a spy and Rogers could have potentially told her the whole story. It was always the fate of this timeline for Rogers to go back and be with Peggy. I think it would also make sense as to why in the alternate timeline Agent Carter who would have been ~45 in that timeline still had Steve Rogers picture on her desk instead of her husband - it was always him (Personally think this works but don't really like it).

The other theory is that Steve somehow traveled back to the Main timeline without going through Hulk's portal. There were other Quantum Portals at that point in time so it was possible. Since it appeared that Bucky was aware that Cap was going to stay in the past it's possible there is something different that occurred that we didn't see.

Personally I think the way they ended it was actually poor. They set it up already with the line being "As much time as he needs, and it will feel like 10 seconds for us" They should have had him just come through the portal as the Old Man, think it would have actually been more impactful and just shows that he took his time in the past, and would have kept the time travel rules consistent with no room for interpretation, opposed to leaving a bit of a loose end that we have now.