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Old 10-27-2017, 11:42 AM   #506
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Big Pharma? Bayer is, last I heard, in the process of aquiring Monsanto, and has long had a crop sciences division (QO houses one of their buildings in fact). InVigor is a seed brand of Bayer. I tried to use specifically Non-Monsanto references.

No, traditional harvesting does not require new seeds to be purchased. You can, undoubtedly, if one wishes. But most conventional farmers/gardeners would identify the excellent producers and harvest those seeds again and again.

When my wife was pregnant, I spent an awful lot of time reading. And sorry, a blog post doesn't weigh the same as sources in books I've read. Breastmilk has an uncanny ability to be unique in composition to each mother/child, and changes in composition continually from birth through development. Not that it matters, as it was just a good example science/nature.

All but one link you posted is from a very pro-industry bias. Which is fine, but you can't assume I'm coming from an Anti-Corp bias and then provide the sources you have.
Also, the debate isn't Organic being healthier as a foodstuff than Conventional (as per the AJCN article). It's that GMO foodstuffs as a whole are detrimental compared to either conventional or Organic or alternative.

We do clearly agree on the major fact, that being the state of health and diet. I do wonder why we feel we need to turn to a laboratory though to fix it? The answer is really quite simple, and as near as I can tell the current shift in agriculture has done nothing but continue to feed the poor health diet.
The links i posted are not pro-industry at all. They are pro-science. Science Based Medicine is a Science advocacy website that has no skin in the game.

Your second point is saying that the current GMO crops are unhealthy foods (ie. Corn). However, most of that is being fed to livestock.

GMO's are an emerging technology and the GMO salmon that was released is the first of many new options coming to market. GMO's will supplement our existing foods and make it more efficient to farm them as well.

You are basing your Anti-GMO stance on Anti-corn syrup/anti - western diet when they are not really related.

GMO orange tree's resistant to blight. GMO Salmon that grows quicker and uses less food to reach adulthood. GMO rice that is Vitamin A enriched to help prevent sight loss and deaths in the third world. Concentrate on these types of innovations to see the benefits.

I also welcome the innovation of lab grown meat. If we can reduce the amount of land needed for livestock it would have a big benefit on the environment.

I feel that changing technology and innovation is much easier than getting a large chunk of the population to change their eating habits.
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