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Old 10-17-2022, 01:59 AM   #2406
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Where exactly would people like protests of the federal government? The government conducts business in Ottawa. They protested all across Canada on the way there. They had people all along the way on the side of the highway in freezing temperatures offering support by ways of money, repairs, meals and kind words.

Those living in Ottawa unfortunately likely know if protests against the government are going to occur they are going to occur in their city. It sucks but comes with the territory. It’s not like government just moved to that city.
I never said there was anything wrong with a protest in Ottawa. It's perfectly fine. However, the tactics used by the protestors irked some people. Its also my opinion that the convoys in January started as a protest and morphed into an occupation, which is where it crossed the line. Also, the guys who brought the guns to the Coutts border was kind of terrible. If you can't see the negative sides/outcomes of the convoys, then I'm sorry, but they occurred. I'm not saying it was all negative, but a lot of it was. As such, many across this country view the protestors in a negative light. That's the consequences.

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Obviously a protest of that magnitude isn’t going to come without logistical challenges. However the organizers did everything they could to try to make their point but keep lanes open for emergency vehicles, organize crews to shovel roadways and sidewalks, and support businesses who served them.

Was there some residents who opposed the protest absolutely. There were also others who helped offer housing, showers, meals and fuel/supplies.

There were businesses that opened did very well and appreciated the support from those buying goods and services from them.
Sure, some people in Ottawa may have appreciated the protestors, but very many likely did not. Regardless, the 'protest' went on for too long and caused too much havoc to central Ottawa. You will disagree with that point, but that's fine. There was a news report the other day about how some businesses in downtown Ottawa are still struggling because less and less Ottawa citizens are going down to that area. So, I'm not so sure all people in Ottawa would share your point of view.

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As with any protest I’m sure not all the people there were perfect , the ones I knew that were there were very good people and that were leaders in their communities and very well respected both before and after.

I know of other protests were things got out of hand and innocent peoples businesses were burnt and looted. Despite those starting with good causes the bad apples within the protest tarnished it a bit with poor decisions.
Right, and people in the convoys in January had Confederate Flags, Nazi symbols, stood on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, honked horns endlessly which was I'm sure terrible for the citizens in the area. Doesn't mean everyone down there was terrible or wrong. Citizens should be allowed to protest. But you can't block roadways forever and occupy a city. It has to end at some point. Also, Pat King, one of the leaders of the convoy was/is a terrible person with terrible beliefs. Not sure that's debatable.

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On this one I do believe which media sources one got their information from helped shape their feelings. If one watched CBC, CTV, global etc(the ones who receive at least 600 million a year to be a “trusted source” of the liberal government) one would likely have got the worst of the worst and only showing interviews of people who were bothered and wanting them gone, but never showing anyone who appreciated the peacefulness and helpful nature of most of the protesters.
I'm sorry, but if you're suggesting that CBC, Global News and CTV are some kind of propaganda wing for the Liberal Party then you're way out there in terms of your beliefs. You're now the second person I've talked to on here who said these things (I think Stickman was the other). Any notion that the media in this country is a propaganda wing for Trudeau and the Liberals is laughable and you're not going to be taken seriously. The fact that you believe this is both terrifying and hilarious.

Was the CBC a biased propaganda wing of Harper when he was PM?

What if PP doesn't defund the CBC if he become PM? Will the CBC then be a propagandist wing of his government?

All media is biased regardless of if it receives funding from the government. Just because the CBC receives funding does not mean it's biased for Trudeau.'

I'm sorry but I can't take anyone seriously when they say the things your saying.

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If one watched true north or rebel there would have been lots of supportive interviews of truckers and showing people that were appreciative of them being there.

I do really wish there was more middle ground with media where they could share the news truthfully and one could decide what to feel about it. Right now it feels like most news tells you how to feel about a story and one is left trying to figure out what is true and to what extent.
You know that these two statements are ridiculous right? You literally list two 'news' sources (true north and rebel) that are terribly biased to one side and then lament that the media isn't more middle grounded. I'm struggling to take you seriously here because what you're saying is ridiculously contradictory.

I mean your final statement is a perfect description of what Rebel and True North do. They beat the same drum over and over, and get their audience to believe ridiculous lies, some of which you discussed above.

I said this in another post on this forum, literally all media is biased. They are products of people and all people are biased. I'm biased, you're biased, everyone is. Your job as the consumer of the media is to recognize the bias and get your information from multiple sources and then balance out the bias to the best of your ability. It's an imperfect system, but it is what it is. If you only listen to sources of information that you like, then what the hell is the point?

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