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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
This may not be popular but does anyone else find this all a little weird? Easy to get on board with rejecting racism and or physical or sexual abuse, but when you start to get into verbal abuse... I dunno. That can be pretty subjective sometimes. And some of these stories Carcillo is quoting are.. weakening his intent I think. Oh your coach benched you? Okay... sorry I just really struggle to see how that is “abuse” at high level hockey. In fact, professional level hockey. And quite frankly, you aren’t even being paid to play in the CHL really other than stocking up years of potential secondary education so hard to see how it’s worth putting up with bull#### if it was really that bad. Really think this is a completely different lens than a young player on the verge of making millions at the NHL level and justifying abuse for that. Other players on Carcillos feed were saying they weren’t getting enough ice time (wtf? So?).
Each situation has its own complex circumstances and context but we need to be wary about, as a society moving to a place where we all just feel like victims constantly about everything. Yes there are lines that should not be crossed but as with everything, reality and pragmatism probably lies somewhere in between here with this so called “movement”. For the OP to be literally losing sleep over this “issue” is slightly bizarre to me.
Bad things happen to people every single day but now that bullying is being highlighted in relation to hockey we are all supposed to care even more about it than we otherwise didn’t? I dunno. Just some random thoughts I guess.
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I agree that it is subjective especially as an adult, but there isn't a need to be verbally abusive when coaching kids.
I was in a different sport, but I remember vividly to this day the verbal bullying and mocking a coach put me through as a teenager in front of my teammates. it was humiliating.
it ruined my desire to play the game, affected my attitude as a player and teammate and I ended up quitting the sport and not playing it for many years as the joy of the game was gone.
didn't help that in those times I couldn't go to my dad. he was old school too, and would have added to it by thinking I was just being a p***y, and I must have done something to deserve it.
so anyway, I'm sensitive to anyone, even a pro being subjected to verbal abuse as a coaching tool.