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Oling_Roachinen · 09-25-2018, 05:27 PM

As much as I'd like to argue X-Men in favour of Spider-Man, if you followed the Spider-Man development history, you'll know it was independent of X-Men happening.

In fact, in the early 90s, there was a script by James Cameron that, arguably, had the first true gritty Superhero story. Laced with profanity and a sex scene between Peter and Mary Jane. It got stuck in development hell due to legal right issues which cumulated in MGM giving up its supposed rights to Spider-Man in exchange for Columbia giving up its rights to Bond. It was immediately considered to be a big film franchise and was speculated that it would have over a $200,000.00 budget and big names attached a year before X-Men came out. (It is listed with a budget of $139M, but that doesn't include advertising so it probably exceeded the $200M budget)

Spider-Man eventually made it's way to Raimi and Koepp, who took Cameron's screenplay, modified it and then had Rosenberg make significant changes. Again, before X-Men was even released. Fun note, Cameron was going to be credited as a writer but voluntarily turned it down. Here's some concept art of Cameron's screenplay: https://io9.gizmodo.com/5447698/what...ve-looked-like

So, it becomes a bit of a question of if Spider-Man would have done as well as it did at the Box Office if not for X-Men. X-Men did provide a sense of credibility to movie viewers that could be argued why Spider-Man came out with a 100M first weekend box office. But realistically, it's a hit either way. And probably a bigger reason for Nolan's Batman Begins.

09-25-2018, 05:27 PM	#246
Oling_Roachinen Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2011 Exp:	As much as I'd like to argue X-Men in favour of Spider-Man, if you followed the Spider-Man development history, you'll know it was independent of X-Men happening. In fact, in the early 90s, there was a script by James Cameron that, arguably, had the first true gritty Superhero story. Laced with profanity and a sex scene between Peter and Mary Jane. It got stuck in development hell due to legal right issues which cumulated in MGM giving up its supposed rights to Spider-Man in exchange for Columbia giving up its rights to Bond. It was immediately considered to be a big film franchise and was speculated that it would have over a $200,000.00 budget and big names attached a year before X-Men came out. (It is listed with a budget of $139M, but that doesn't include advertising so it probably exceeded the $200M budget) Spider-Man eventually made it's way to Raimi and Koepp, who took Cameron's screenplay, modified it and then had Rosenberg make significant changes. Again, before X-Men was even released. Fun note, Cameron was going to be credited as a writer but voluntarily turned it down. Here's some concept art of Cameron's screenplay: https://io9.gizmodo.com/5447698/what...ve-looked-like So, it becomes a bit of a question of if Spider-Man would have done as well as it did at the Box Office if not for X-Men. X-Men did provide a sense of credibility to movie viewers that could be argued why Spider-Man came out with a 100M first weekend box office. But realistically, it's a hit either way. And probably a bigger reason for Nolan's Batman Begins.