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Old 12-06-2017, 08:16 PM   #601
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
Not sure I follow.
The problem is that it can be impossible to know if an advance will be welcome or unwelcome without having mind-reading super powers. Make an unwelcome advance, and you could be facing a harassment accusation. Don't make a welcome advance, and you could be missing out on the love of your life.

Having women be the ones making the advances doesn't change that - unless you have a different standard for what makes an unwelcome advance unacceptable when a woman is making it towards a man than when a man is making it towards a woman.

What I think needs to happen is for it to become clearly established that potentially unwelcome advances are a necessity to determine if there's reciprocity, and therefore do not constitute an offense (not inherently, they also do not preclude and offense from taking place). Those who get offended by someone trying to get consent, and particularly those who impose seek to impose punishments for it, are actually detrimental to a culture of consent.
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