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Old 02-25-2021, 10:03 PM   #253
flames_fan_down_under
I believe in the Jays.
 
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Fair enough. I don't think he's at the top of everyone's HOF list as he doesn't have that typical name recognition.

But just doing a quick little dive here are a few numbers (also remember he is not at the end of his career and is still putting up good numbers).

Right now he is 40th all time in assists, by the end of the season he will be probably around 36th. One more season he will be around top 30, maybe around Jerry West's total.

He is tied for 32nd in career triple doubles with 17, if by the end of his career he gets 4 more he will be tied with Kobe and Kareem for 23rd overall.

Advanced stats like Career Win Shares has him at 96th overall, grouped with players like Vlade Divac, Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Lenny Wilkens and Grant Hill. All HOFers.

Like I said, I think he is borderline.
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