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Old 06-05-2019, 11:55 PM   #326
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Has anyone done anything like this lately?

I’d be curious to see where the Flames are compared to other teams, and even deeper line by line

https://www.tsn.ca/talent/a-closer-l...-nhl-1.1155330

It is from ahead of 2018-19.

I know that the Flames obviously have a lot of contracts that turned out great.
Johnny, Monahan, Lindholm, and Tkachuk were obviously steals (Tkachuk due to ELC, Lindholm due to breakout, the others due to shrewd GM signings).

On D, Gio played above his contract.
Brodie and Hamonic were both great value for money.

Backlund is on a very solid contract and although he had a tough playoffs, this year he had 47 points and was +34. That’s no slouch

Even guys that people rag on, like Frolik - >.5 points per game and +24. The guy clearly delivered, and the controversy in my mind was justified - Neal was gifted top 9 time and sucked. Hard. Frolik was benched to make room. WTF? Agent was right to rep his client. Good 200 foot player that outscored a guy paid more to be a sniper. Value for money. Frankly it is stupid that people rag on Frolik for this. Why be a wallflower? They should celebrate that Frolik’s agent is confident enough that he is better than Neal to speak up and say wtf?

Great contracts and great regular season results. First overall.

So what do people expect when Brodie/Hamonic and Frolik ‘have to go’?

I get that Tkachuk needs paying, and still all of these guys delivered very solid value for the contracts.

They have paid Hanifin for future performance at 4.95. Does he seem ready to cslot in to Brodie’s role with Gio?

On D, looking at the Flames, they have 3 guys with one year left:
Brodie 4.65
Hamonic 3.86
Stone 3.5.

I get the idea of making cap space, leveraging assets, and giving room for guys with promise to grow.. but if Tre is a wizard, he gets rid of bad contracts, not good ones. Detroit also was a place that was competitive for years because they were so good that guys who looked ready were stuck in the queue for a while.

I’m not sure how to look at this rumour mongering conversation
- this team was first in the West
- they have high performing guys on bargain contracts, but they are up next year
- both are basically in their prime years and seem like the type to sign hometown discounts
- they really need to dump one
- Stone 3.5 - dead cap space.
- Neal 5.75 - dead cap space

Yes, Brodie and Hamonic both have value, but if Tre is a wizard he gets value for as many dollars as he spends rather than accepting dead weight and throwing away value.

You have cost certainty for these guys next year. I dunno. I don’t see the urgency on finishing first in the West and bailing on 1 or 2 of your top 4 D.

Yeah the young guys show promise but gifting guys tokes causes trouble. * reference James Neal

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