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Old 10-16-2020, 03:01 PM   #6613
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As I've noted previously, I (as a shock to no one) mingle in some *very* left leaning circles. This is probably (outside of Twitter, "stare into the void" ventures into Voat and Gab, and random Facebook articles) the most centrist/right-wing space I communicate with on a frequent basis.

I do not identify as a "radical leftist", regardless of my reputation here, and in these other circles I am significantly more center than a good portion of the posters. That said, after discussing this video with a notable amount of self-identifying socialists/communists, this video did resonate.

There are those that have written off the entire system entirely due to the oligarchical nature of the US and the general belief that only "revolution" will change the system, but for many who want to see affected change from within, this video spoke their language, from a person whose comedic opinion they do not distrust. It was exactly the kind of video that would push more ambivalent leftists to consider voting.

And this is effectively the crux of it, and the problem with centrism in the US. You identify more with a group you (in theory) would find morally reprehensible in most contexts from a social standpoint, but hold your nose to share their content and pat them on the back for their output because you share a common goal (their intentions and post-election interests notwithstanding). Leftists however, you do not choose to identify with at all. There is a handwaving of appreciation for their "nobility" and "purity of purpose", but no acknowledgement that you (I assume) very much share many of their social desires.

How sad is it that you will be more humane and welcoming to a group that opposes your base ideals because they have money, power and a slick ad campaign, and dismiss the crass, grassroots attempts at achieving the same thing (ousting Trump), even though you have more in common politically with that group.

If you don't believe there is a merit to engaging or understanding leftists to try and help you achieve your goal, but it's okay to reach across the aisle because they "speak your language", you are the embodiment of why there is so much disillusionment and cynicism about the Democratic Party.
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