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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
This seems somewhat naive. As lovely as it would be to believe that a true democracy - as you’ve described it - exists, it doesn’t. Do you have an example (100 points for a recent one) where your version of democracy works outside of a university classroom or textbook?
Being that we live in the real world, this is how things work. We give a little to get a little. That’s why we have restrictions on guns and other weapons, prescription drugs, operating vehicles, etc. This is how life works, there is no such thing as absolute freedom.
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Naive would be to think that in the real world the state would not abuse its power given the opportunity. History has proven the opposite conclusively.
No, I don't believe that absolute freedom is possible. Yes, I believe that presumption of innocence must not be violated in a democracy, no matter the objective and the benefits. See if you could plausibly argue against the following violations similar to the no-cause breath test:
- Preventatively checking anyone's phone for evidence of child porn without a cause;
- Preventatively searching anyone's home without a cause for possible illegal things (arms, drugs, laundered money);
- Preventatively searching anyone's computer without a cause to ensure they are not involved in any illegal activities...
Any of the above violations could return immensely productive benefits for the society as a whole - identify child predators, terrorists, potential mass-murderers, thieves etc. Why not do that? If someone is innocent, why should they be opposed?