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Originally Posted by Monahammer
I hope no one thinks I am part of a defense of the CCP here, I am not at all.
I do have chinese friends and family, the family being from Hong Kong. I think there is a tense situation everywhere right now around visible asian people in our communities being targeted by hate overtly, but partially it could stem from these subtle aggressions in places like this thread. I can appreciate some of what Johnny B says from that perspective. But it's easy to make a hard break: CCP = one of the most oppressive and brutal Oligarchial dictatorships on earth, currently engaged in mass societal and cultural suppression and straight up genocide in Xinjiang. Chinese people are in some cases direct victims of this.
Regardless of all of this or any position on the CCP, it is much too early, in my opinion, to declare a victory of our COVID policy when we KNOW there are knock on effects and we don't know the total scope or scale of these impacts.
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Ugghhh.... Can't believe I'm getting dragged into another COVID thread.
I think the point is that there is no victory. You either let it run rampant or you strangle people economically and socially. You have to find a balance and no matter what you do, there are consequences, both short and long term.
With vaccines readily available, there's no way a zero COVID policy is the right choice. It's quite clear that China is:
1. Refusing to swallow it's pride and use western vaccines; and
2. Is using the lockdowns and COVID to control it's population.
Claiming to be putting the health of your people first while simultaneously denying them western vaccines is a parodoxical position.