[Sylvanfan]

I think the key thing is that both Yzerman and Sakic were on really bad teams at some point in their career, and possibly learned that sometimes you need to lose, to ultimately have that winning team.

Doug Wilson and David Poile made a lot of good moves and ran what were pretty good teams for sustained periods of time, but they couldn't get their teams to push past the second round of the playoffs or win a cup. Both of them have made some riskier moves lately to try and push past that...and it has probably resulted in some stinkers that neither had previously made.

So you can make every move by the books analytics wise...but sometimes you need to make that deal that can hurt to ultimately push thru. In time I'm sure Tampa might not like giving up some of what they did for Blake Coleman and Barclay Goodrow. But they helped the team win a cup. I don't know if a purley analytics approach would have resulted in those deals.