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Old 08-09-2019, 11:21 PM   #687
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Originally Posted by nfotiu View Post
First, it's not real, the sign on top was a prank.

Second, I'd guess that rifle ownership in Alberta is probably way higher per capita than in the United States.

Third, other than the mass killings, rifles are very rarely used to kill people. Handguns kill people at 20x the rate and for some reason everyone focuses on rifles:

Deaths by handguns in the US: 5,562
Deaths by any kind of rifle:248
Deaths by knives:1,567
Blunt objects:435
Hand,fists,feet:660
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-4


Edmonton had a rough year in 2014, when 35 people died of homicides in Edmonton. Per capita that would translate to 12,000 in the United states.

Calgary had 26 in 2014, which would translate to 7,280 in the US population.

Both of those numbers are way above the per capita rate that people are murdered with guns in the US, and are probably on par with the murder rate as a whole in the US.


The point? US's gun problem is hand guns. Guns in general need to be eliminated to make any kind of difference. Mass shootings get the headlines, but they are not even registering as a significant risk of death, nor are the weapons of choice used in those crimes.

First of all you're picking overall homicide rates and prorating them over an entire country... looking at the overall homide per capita over the entire country is a different thing. That's like picking chicago and extrapolating its murder rate to the rest of the united states.

the statistics for country per capita are easy to find.

Secondly, how many of those murders in Calgary and Edmonton were by guns? Not sure why the total murder rate is being used when the discussion point of this thread is about mass shootings.

i have zero issue with people owning rifles or guns (so long as they are properly regulated)... in fact, people in canada can even own AR style weapons if they want to (66K in fact) - they just have to go through the process of getting a restricted license.

there will never be a handgun ban in the US.... legislators can't even close a loophole about background checks.
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