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Originally Posted by Fuzz
You have been misled then.
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Au contre my carbon loving friend. It's like you don't even bother to do any research.
Cost of lithium ion batteries have dropped 76% since 2012 and continues to drop rapidly as battery production increases around the globe.
https://about.bnef.com/blog/battery-...tens-coal-gas/
https://www.greentechmedia.com/artic...bnef#gs.9f6xz0
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ry-pack-costs/
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/09...packs-in-2020/
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/12/11...tting-cheaper/
https://data.bloomberglp.com/bnef/si...and-market.pdf
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Electric cars aren't expensive for any of the reasons you mention. They are expensive because of the batteries.
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You mean the cost of components? Isn't that exactly what I just said? Since the number one component in an EV is the battery pack, the cost to drive prices down will be the cost of the battery pack. Those costs are dropping dramatically and will make the cars that much more affordable.
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Adding more demand for expensive batteries won't reduce the cost, it could increase it as the materials to make them become more rare.
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No, but adding more manufacturing capacity will make batteries more readily available and drive the cost of them down... which is exactly what is happening.
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The rest of the car, other than the motor, is just a car. Nothing complicated. Even the motor shouldn't be all that expensive. Yes, there are efficiencies to be found in battery manufacturing, but it's a fundamental limit that is going to prevent economy electric cars from existing until they find a cheaper battery.
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You mean like the $35K Tesla, or the $35K Chevy, or the $30K Nissan, or the number of low cost Chinese cars waiting to get permission to be imported into the North American market. And that doesn't take into consideration the number of models the Europeans are developing and bringing to market.
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And very smart people have been worknig on it for decades, and this is the best we have, which just won't make the cut for mass adoption.
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New developments are happening every single year. Better batteries with better capacity are being developed all the time. Better technology in other components are also making huge improvements. The industry is still in its infancy, but for some reason you think this is the best there will be. It's laughable. It's like suggesting the best aviation had to offer was two years after Kittyhawk.
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99% of people don't care what powers their car. They don't need to be incentivized becuase it is scary or new or whatever. They just need it affordable.
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Yeah, even if it is contributing to the demise of the planet as we know it. What are you going to do when these vehicles do become more affordable? What would happen if these subsidies you were crying about were finally held back from the car manufacturers and the fossil fuel industries? What happens when you have to pay for a gallon of gas what it actually costs to process it? What will happen then? Will those IC engines still be affordable? Christ, I'm hearing people piss and moan about cost with gas at $3.20 a gallon. Double that when the subsidies end and then talk about affordability.
Well, that's a credible source.
