[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Humans are animals. I'm not sure how anyone could suggest otherwise. I think the comparison of a sick animal to a sick human being is relevant, because there are some situations where society benefits as a whole with the removal of an individual from the collective.

Ok...here we go....you were the one comparing them to unintelligent animals and then when I say they are not the same you go with......well we are animals aren't we.....good way to defend your position.

Originally Posted by flashpoint

The majority of pedophiles weren't abused as children. It is true that some were, and that there are clear cycles of violence that perpetuate. But you have jumped to the conclusion that all offenders have the excuse that they were once victims too.

It simply isn't true.

Really....do you have some proof? Because I have seen studies ranging from 20% to 65% of pedophiles had been abused either sexually or physically as a child. So don't sit on your high horse and say "it simply isn't true"

Several studies have confirmed that pedophiles are very likely to have been victims of violence and sex abuse as children, in a victim-to-perpetrator cycle. If the victims of the perpetrators are neglected and lack supervision, along with abuse by a female, and witness violence among family members (as it often happens), they are more likely to develop real pedophilia, becoming the sexual aggressor as an adult to accomplish this emotional shift.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Which...ia-46799.shtml

There are several theories for the cause of Pedophilia with non of them being confirmed. So again you have no basis to make your statement.

Originally Posted by flashpoint

I agree. Lets remove them permanently with 100% certainty and break the cycle of violence against kids.

We can remove them from society by indefinate incarceration....not by murdering them.

Originally Posted by flashpoint

I'm sure the cure for homosexuality is right behind (sarcasm). Lets get real - there isn't going to be a magic bullet that "cures" pedophillia any more than years of work in psychology has cured depression.

Oh, because you have a PhD in psychology? Ok......now you are starting to sound like Tom Cruise......psychology has made huge steps in the treatment of depression both through pharmaceutical drugs and psychotherpy.

Originally Posted by flashpoint

Long enough term? Sure, we might get some sort of brain shocking implant or other sci fi thing. But that's a strawman. Far enough out anything's possible.

Lets just kill everyone person with psycholpathic dendancies then because we dont have a cure for them. Good lord man.

Originally Posted by flashpoint

In the meantime I don't see any big loss in losing a few child skinners from the gene pool.

You might not see a loss but I think the people that you are advocating murdering might see a loss.

Originally Posted by flashpoint

In my mind executing child molesters is completely justified for the reasons above

• It's incurable.
• It's preyed upon our weakest individuals.
• It is deliberately thought out and pre planned.

Again...lets kill all people with who are diagnosed as psychopaths....becuse the chance of being able to cure them are the same as pedophiles. They prey on the weak and vulnerable (usualy the elderly) and their actions are deliberately thought out and pre planned.

Originally Posted by flashpoint

I guess you'd rather have society support these freaks in prison - where they have access to the internet, the possibility of parole, etc etc, to the tune of 80 grand a year.

They should have access to the internet and it costs more to run someone through the death penatly process than it does to keep them incarcerated for 25 years. So that arguement is a no go.

Originally Posted by flashpoint

I'm sure the next little girl who gets raped with give you a big "thanks" for being so enlightened.

Putting these people in jail for ever would prevent them from hurting anyone else just as killing them would. So why would you post this suggesting that I want pedophiles to hurt little children.