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CaptainCrunch · 01-27-2005, 07:39 PM

Honestly in terms of either leaders Sharon or Kim, I'd take neither right here or right now. But at least Sharon is somewhat accountable and Kim is not, and that does make a difference to me.

Don't get me wrong, neither of thier actions rank to me as far as rational.

Not sure if its that simple. 8 or 9 nukes wouldn't stop the American's if they really had a outright reason to invade North Korea. I think that Kim see's these weapons as a diplomatic tool, he's seen the effectiveness of these weapons as he threaten's to build them. If he has them, he has more power to blackmail the region for aid and cash.

he has in fact tried that recently, though i think that 50 years of hermit policy, mostly before Kim Jong-Il, have more to with the nukes existence - complete and total paranoia. the 8 or 9 nukes would mean a lot larger butcher bill for an invasion, if the americans could invade NK easily they would have done it by now. the cost is larger, NK and america knows it.

I'm not sure if I'm going to agree with you one this. My biggest fear with Kim is he seems likely to be the type of person to let those missiles fly if he gets backed into a corner with either his people revolt, or he does get invaded.

true - but they are better than nothing. they will guard some people/weaponry against surface strikes. but it's like the club for your car - no good against someone that's a pro but some defence against some theft attempts. you and i know that america isn't going to nuke NK for no reason, but they are driven by a culture of fear. and those tunnels mean some troop movement, logistics and communication that are somewhat safer from carpet-bombing a-la-ho chi minh trail. didn't NK contractors advise on and build the tunnels in SV?

North Korean engineers are very good at making tunnel systems, and they were also hard at work for Saddam previous to this war. These tunnels aren't in place to protect from a nuclear or carpet bombing strike as American satellites can pick up density differences in rock and soil. They are there to transport troops and supplies throughout the country side in secret.

As far as the carpet bombing go, its not really used anymore as American and thier allies are more enamoured with precision guided munitions.

01-27-2005, 07:39 PM	#15
CaptainCrunch Norm! Join Date: Jun 2002 Exp:	Honestly in terms of either leaders Sharon or Kim, I'd take neither right here or right now. But at least Sharon is somewhat accountable and Kim is not, and that does make a difference to me. Don't get me wrong, neither of thier actions rank to me as far as rational. Not sure if its that simple. 8 or 9 nukes wouldn't stop the American's if they really had a outright reason to invade North Korea. I think that Kim see's these weapons as a diplomatic tool, he's seen the effectiveness of these weapons as he threaten's to build them. If he has them, he has more power to blackmail the region for aid and cash. he has in fact tried that recently, though i think that 50 years of hermit policy, mostly before Kim Jong-Il, have more to with the nukes existence - complete and total paranoia. the 8 or 9 nukes would mean a lot larger butcher bill for an invasion, if the americans could invade NK easily they would have done it by now. the cost is larger, NK and america knows it. I'm not sure if I'm going to agree with you one this. My biggest fear with Kim is he seems likely to be the type of person to let those missiles fly if he gets backed into a corner with either his people revolt, or he does get invaded. true - but they are better than nothing. they will guard some people/weaponry against surface strikes. but it's like the club for your car - no good against someone that's a pro but some defence against some theft attempts. you and i know that america isn't going to nuke NK for no reason, but they are driven by a culture of fear. and those tunnels mean some troop movement, logistics and communication that are somewhat safer from carpet-bombing a-la-ho chi minh trail. didn't NK contractors advise on and build the tunnels in SV? North Korean engineers are very good at making tunnel systems, and they were also hard at work for Saddam previous to this war. These tunnels aren't in place to protect from a nuclear or carpet bombing strike as American satellites can pick up density differences in rock and soil. They are there to transport troops and supplies throughout the country side in secret. As far as the carpet bombing go, its not really used anymore as American and thier allies are more enamoured with precision guided munitions. __________________ My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!