[Burninator]

Originally Posted by freeschools

I think you misunderstood me: the knowledge of the theory of evolution is necessary for very FEW careers. Unless, you are a paleontologist, a prehistorian, a biologist let's say. For most people it is of no use, I therefore see no reason the governement should impose this theory.

Because this is really not very important to function as a useful citizen, so why do you want to violate the conscience or beliefs of these Mennonites. Violence, limitation of any freedom or imposition should be justified by greater good. Sorry, I cannot see it here (except Darwinist dogmatism).

I think you are misunderstanding me. I am not putting the complete value of education into the evolution basket. But I see a fundamental problem with a school not teaching evolution, and replacing it with creationism/ID. It leads me to believe there may be other things lacking in the curriculum. For example if a school was teaching that the earth was flat, surely you would think there are other problems in the education the students are receiving. Now I know you aren't going to like this, and chances are other people won't either, but those examples are in perfect parallel. Teaching creationism is the intellectual equivalent of teaching that the world is flat.

I am not closed to the idea that the children at this school are recieving a fine education (outside of creationism). But of the surface, and in my eyes it's not off to a good start.

Sorry, only answering the believer in "qualification" and "State certification".

Well, it does: I'm not certificied by the super-Sate of Quebec with 450 hours of psychopedagogics, etc. and I still teach!

I LIVE in the village, I know them. THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT CLOSE THE SCHOOL FOR REASONS of not achieving a certain STANDARD, but because they don't follow the Holy State Curriculum and they do not employ an Secular teacher, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LEVEL OF THE COURSES OFFERED OR THE TEACHER ! Just administrative reasons to guarantee the State of Quebec's Monopoly on all curricula taught (basically make sure all children will be leftists, progay, etc.).

I thought this was mentioned several times.

Again I don't see how it does, you teach your kids at home, not at the school in question, correct? There are inherent differences between home schooling your children and having them attend a faux public school. The one lends itself to having credibility, but doesn't have such a thing (qualification and certification) and has no accountability.

"Basically make sure all children will be leftists, progay, etc."

These are not good colours you just showed with that comment. You are hardly lending yourself much credibility.

Regarding your other posts, you see to be suggesting that public school is a bad thing, and home schooling is superior. Well that may work in a small community like your colony, but it will have little chance of working in a large scale city.

That there are holes in the theory (the odds of the macromutations happening within the timeframe known are just too incredibly low) and that even, according to Karl Popper's criteria, it is an unscientific one (since it unfalsifiable). Note that personally, I don't mind the theory as a general framework but really it is still full of holes and I don't see why it should be imposed.

If you feel the theory of evolution is not worth considering, I suggest you do more research on the subject. And considering your alternative is creationism, I highly recommend that you look at evolution more closely.

I've debated creationism/ID several times on the forum before. So I don't really wish to discuss it again. I always get the same tired old arguments and the same terrible logic from that camp. But if you wish to go down that road I'm game.