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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Actually, I think it is pretty easy to know what is fact.
Fact: It is against international law to unilaterally (or otherwise) attack a nation.
Fact: there are numerous examples of private interests (read: corporations) actively leading militant foreign and domestic policy to destructive (for everyone else) ends.
Fact: these private interests are incredibly powerful, and their range of influence incredibly broad.
Fact: Most of these interests have incorporated 'media' outlets as part of their corporate fabric, essentially as in-house PR representatives.
These are all facts. If you put them together, you see how policy is driven. I can give you incredibly specific examples (down to dollar amounts) of these occurances, all in easily obtainable record.
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Those are statements ... in themselves I don't know if I would call them facts.
I'm not 11, I get that there are influence groups, money, power pushing agendas all over the world. I've never claimed anything in to the contrary. But a source that says that the Iraq war was about oil because of x and y and z isn't necessarily a fact, and that's my point.
I've read comprehensive articles that list the WMDs that were taken out of the country into Syria, about receipts from other nations for materials needed to produce WMDs and then it never flows into the main media. Why? A conspiracy of left leaning journalists that don't want to support Bush? Possibly ... or maybe that information wasn't all that solid to begin with.
I lean to the latter, and I think a lot of your facts when drilled down to specifics might be the same.
Sometimes governments in tough situations make tough decisions that end up not being correct in the end.
Happens.
But spare me the Fox lover crap ... waste of all of our time. I don't feel the need to insult you.