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Originally Posted by Save Us Sutter
I'm sorry if I am offending anyone, but I just don't understand how you can keep denying that humans are effecting our climate.
From the UN scientific panel... which I hope we can agree is un-biased?
declared that the evidence of a warming trend is "unequivocal," and that human activity has "very likely" been the driving force in that change over the last 50 years.
and
added new momentum to a debate that now seems centered less over whether humans are warming the planet, but instead over what to do about it
I am on my way to a BBQ, but if this thread is still going when I get back I will dig up some non-NY Times articles!!
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/s...nyt-classifier
Yeah, yeah it's the NY Times... liberal bias... blah blah blah. The fact remains that the results come from a UN team of scientists.... |
The bulk of these panels are hardly unbiased. They are typically made up of "scientists" that have already made up their mind on the issue when the data is clearly incomplete and inconclusive. In an eralier thread I mentioned an article in a recent discover magazine from a Denmark scientist that studies the influence of non-human factors on global warming and believes that the human contribution is likely small. However, his main beef is with the models these "scientists" use that quite simply do not take all the variables into account and leave out some huge ones because they have no idea how to model that factor. He isn't the only scientist that believes this. However, he makes it well known that this group of scientists are not permitted in such meetings or on such panels. These panels have a high degree of bias and pseudo-scientists looking for fame (pseudo-scientists because they are generally not even open to another explanation. Call it that attitude ignorant or whatever you want but it certainly isn't an attitude that should be acceptable in science).
That isn't to say we shouldn't clean up our act anyways BUT it is saying that perhaps we should seriously rethink accords and laws that can stifle a nations economy and hurt a lot of people. Especially when we CLEARLY do not know the extent of human involvement in all of this.