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Originally Posted by FireFly
I'm not acting like they don't want it, I'm acting like it's not easy to get. I'm a realist. You think if we waltz out of Iraq they'll start having democratic elections and everything will be peachy-pie? If we all just leave them alone, they'll figure it out, eh? I'm sure you're right. Eventually they will. How long do you figure it takes them?
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You're right, self-determination is really hard to achieve when everytime you do something to further that objective, and outside party terrorizes your country and disolves the changes you've made.
Again, the Shah was
not elected. When Iran becomes an issue, and it invariably will, will you bleat about how Iranians didn't want self-determination bad enough, or were too afraid to seek it? They were actively persuing it before someone came along and screwed it all up for them.
How long will it take them? As long as western powers keep preventing it.