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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Again, you're acting like they don't want self-determination. Who doesn't want self-determination?
History shows us that western powers have a vested interest in preventing that self-determination, and act accordingly to achieve those goals.
Again, the shah was not elected.
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I'm not acting like they don't want it, I'm acting like it's not easy to get. I'm a realist. You think if we waltz out of Iraq they'll start having democratic elections and everything will be peachy-pie? If we all just leave them alone, they'll figure it out, eh? I'm sure you're right. Eventually they will. How long do you figure it takes them?
Who doesn't want self-determination? Those who are scared of their oppressors. Ask any abused woman why she doesn't leave.