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Old 08-15-2007, 11:25 AM   #26
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I completely disagree with that logic. Since when does one nation have the right to supervise another? Who made the United States the teacher, and everyone else the student? How would Canadians feel if the United States took the same action against them as they did against Iraq? Pissed as hell? Wanting to fight back? Wanting their sovereignty? Wanting Americans to butt the frick out? I know that is the way I would feel. I would feel that way if someone tried that on the United States.
I didn't say the US needed to be the one to supervise them at all. And by supervising, I don't mean micro-managing, I mean just keeping an eye on things. We do it all over the world... do we not pay attention to the goings on in the Koreas?

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Westerners need to get out of the region and let the Arabs, Persians and Jews find their own way in the region. The only reason we have any interest in that region at all is oil. Without that, we wouldn't be bothered, except to buy really good quality area rugs and dates. If we want their product, pay the going market rate, but leave them to their own devices. That's we demand of them, so we should extend the same courtesy to them as well.
No, that's not the only reason we have an interest in the area, and to be blinded by the money is a foolish error on your part. You're right, without the oil we wouldn't be bothered, but it's not the oil itself that bothers us, it's the money and power that go along with it. You walk out and let the Arabs, Persians and Jews work it out on their own and guess what happens? Someone wins. And when that happens, you have a new superpower, one with a hate on for all things Western. With or without western interferance, they despise our culture, lack of morals, and pretty much everything about us. On top of that you already having spotty human rights records, especially for the rights of females. So you give one nation power, money and hate, and what do you suppose they'll do?

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EDIT: Seriously, how can Americans be trusted to "supervise" the region when they do stuff like this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070815/...iran_terrorism

This would be like the Russins classifying the US Marines, who operate their own air, land, and sea wings, as being a terrorist organization in efforts to exert pressure on Washington and extort support against them.
Again, I said nothing about US supervision, just supervision in general, much like the supervision we give to SE Asia.
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