I've never said that it is only western whites, or that others wouldn't do the same or worse. Maybe it would be better, we have no way of knowing. I can easily concede the entire region may be a bombed out wasteland with zero western influence or involvement, or with Chinese or Russian, or Mongolian interference. But at least we wouldn't have to wonder about our roll in making it what it is, and have to constantly intervene and support wars for...reasons. And to say, "well if we hadn't made it awful, someone else would have" isn't really a strong argument either.
Can we point to any real success story over there?
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