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Originally Posted by cam_calderon
You guys were jumping on him about his Iranian friends celebrating the killing. Why is it so implausible when reportedly hundreds of thousands were in the streets after it went down?
Or is it that he knows Iranian people that is implausible?
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Jfc dummy, no one here is disputing the fact that the elimination of Ayatollah Khamenei is a positive and is being celebrated by many there.
He's also the tip of the iceberg in their islamic regime which has long been built to both anticipate and sustain his loss and continue to operate.
The fact that the exchange of missiles has only ramped up since indicates that this is long from over and Iranians have many dark and anxious days yet ahead of them. This isn't lost on you, right?
All momentary (and that's all they are) positives aside, this is still an unlawful and unconstitutional war that Trump started without any congressional approval, that he sent troops to with the professed expectation of casualties without explicitly stating any end goal, reasoning or objective beyond the flip flopping speculations out there.
He's not only abandoned constitutional guard rails in place for these situations, but he's also gone back on his campaign on upholding and instilling international peace and prior promises made to his own base.
We've had one really beneficial kill that cost 500 lives including 100 innocent young girls, a kill which may ultimately do nothing to destabilize the regime, but in the process stir up a larger conflict involving many countries, which usually comes with pretty massive trickle down consequences.
See, reality has nuances. You may not be living in it, but we don't see things as black and white because they aren't. As much as you'd like to fantasize that those of us on this "side" also operate on flexible, self-serving truths like your fascist cult leader does, it's just not the case. Multiple, conflicting things can and often are true at the same time.
As for the exchange with DocDenial since you clearly missed the plot, I was giving the doc flak for unsolicitedly tooting his own horn about having Iranian friends in a cringe manner like he desperately needed to prove something with that nugget of information.
The fact that he paints the situation like the Endor victory celebration in Return of the Jedi shows that he either must not have as many Iranian friends as he claims or he's not really getting the full picture from their situation, because I doubt any one with half a brain in Iran right now feels like they're out of the woods, or that their oppression is over.