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Originally Posted by Bingo
A person that says essentially a second is trying to water down a trade result because he doesn't like the trade.
The motives are already suspect.
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Are they? Are they any more suspect than the ultra-positive water carriers who fail to see the obvious failures in deals until multi-years later? I don't think so. The water carriers are more annoying to me (IMO) because they support the mistakes that continue to go with this organization since 1989. I've always felt management should be held accountable season-to-season, and three strikes and they're out.
For example, Treliving should have been cut loose long before he turned his back on the team because he had proven he was an incompetent manager of assets and contracts. It still blows my mind that some here still defend him as he's move to Toronto and has followed the exact same playbook, much to the Leafs demise and lack of future. When management isn't held accountable the team will continue to head in poor directions.
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A person comparing a late 1st round pick to an early 2nd round pick is assessing two asset values and that's fair game.
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That's the approach to take. Each pick must be measured on its likelihood of becoming a player for the team. Sadly, with the expansion of the league and the number of picks increasing over time, those picks have been watered down and early picks in 2nd round have become later 1st rounders. The potential for those picks to turn into a player aren't that much different. The goal of management is to get the best draft picks that can aid in the construction of the future. Kicking picks two or three seasons down the road is a failure in my books, but that is just my opinion. Some may like it and see the 1st attached and get hard over it. It is where the pick is, whether is helps the team drive that pick later in the draft, and the ultimate quality of the draft. Lots of moving parts that need to be evaluated.
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But as others have said ... team X is in 5th place, they have the 28th pick in the first round and the 60th pick in the second round. You trade with that team and you don't have an indifference between their 1st and 2nd. So the whole point is silly from the start.
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In your opinion, oh camel of the Flames' desert. The concerns are just as valid as any argument. Debate the point and consider how the evaluation is conducted and argued. Obviously you want pick 28 and not 60, but there may be other issues in evaluation of the draft quality, other components included, and how far out the picks are.