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Originally Posted by Five-hole
If you're going to chastise me for excluding Monahan and Tkachuk, why is your argument premised on there are no examples except Sam and Sven, who were drafted 4th and 13th overall, respectively, and should have succeeded but for the Flames?
But in addition to them:
Pelletier
Morgan Klimchuk
Emile Poirier
Tom Erixon
Tyler Wotherspoon
Oliver Kylington
Valimaki (as you say, maybe injuries)
Granlund (maybe)
These are all first and second round picks that were trending in the right direction post-draft and amounted to nothing or less than they could have. And outside of the first and second round, we've found nobody except Gaudreau and, I guess, Mangiapane. The jury is out on whether guys like Suniev, Honzek, and Stromgren will go anywhere.
My view is this organization does not give skill guys the space to succeed and grow at the NHL despite flaws in their game, because we insist that a player has no flaws and makes no mistakes before they're given premium ice time. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in defending this as we've been complaining about it since literally forever.
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Most of those guys are dime a dozen prospects, not high end skill guys.
i was focused on high end skill guys since this whole conversation started around Zayne.
And you've got a combination of guys picked but not developed by the Flames.
My sense on the list would be:
Pelletier - bad pick. Guys with his profile rarely make it.
Morgan Klimchuk - not a high end skill guy. Upside was middle 6 at best.
Emile Poirier - de-railed by off ice issues
Tom Erixon - not developed by the Flames
Tyler Wotherspoon - not a skill guy. Upside was stay at home defender.
Oliver Kylington - Actually developed well until things went sideways
Valimaki (as you say, maybe injuries) - I was very high on him, but he lost his mobility.
Granlund (maybe) - not a high end skill guy.