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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
This. And Kuzmenko who they were able to turn into a third round pick.
I guess if you squint you can say the flames got younger by that trade because of Kuzmenko. But he was leaving anyway and it ignores the draft capital given up.
I was still fine with the trade but I can understand some not liking it given where the Flames are in their rebuild.
I thought Bingo said it perfectly a few weeks ago. The Flames are definitely in a rebuild. Are they doing it exactly how I wished they would? No, not for me but broad strokes I still like what they are doing.
I just wish they would look to make the curve a little steeper both going into the bottom and coming out. Right now the three most effective forwards on the team are 36, 35 and 34. So just to tread water, those three need to be replaced, And then to actually become a contender, you need to build an entire first line. That is still a lot of skill they need to find and develop.
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Very well said and that's why I'm not holding anything against Conroy or the Flames until this season is over. A monkey can see the precipice we're standing on with regards to where we are now and where we're headed.
It's a rebuild and needs to be embraced and I trust Conroy to understand that and execute accordingly, but don't fully trust the organization as a whole to do so. And as much as Pepsi/gio/dino/bingo mock and go at posters ("don't worry they're loser weirdos" as we're called), this is absolutely a valid concern. I won't pre judge this season like some are, but I am absolutely judging this season as to what happens by the end of it.
Andersson will be gone, even if diss thinks he's heard there's still a chance at a contract. Coleman and Kadri (along with Andersson) are leading the Flames to wins at an older age where drop offs happen suddenly, which may continue into the new year towards a playoff spot. They are too old to be a part of the next Flames core/contending period, so your options are sell at an absolute high with 1.5 years left on their contracts, get 3 major trade returns and likely start to fall down the standings, or keep them until a lower or possibly similar return next season so we can compete this season, because as transplant99 said "it's bad for business to sell them this season, but next season you have to". I will see what Conroy does this season, and I'm hopeful and won't judge like many are doing months before the deadline.
But I also understand that there is rumours and precedent of powers beyond the GM leading directions that favor current revenue and making poor decisions based on week to week standings, which is why some of us are afraid of the Flames results that are starting to head towards a playoff chance "HAHAHAHAH 1 point out of a playoff spot? How about STILL CLOSE TO THE BASEMENT TOO, YOU ***ing IDIOT HAHAHAHAHA".
It's become a tank vs anti tank "crowd" discussion over the last few months, but many reasonable fans also would like to see us lean into the season for a higher pick, WHILE selling high on three assets. That isn't some crazy, unreasonable opinion. And no that doesn't mean "OH, So we just take SPARE PARTS for our players so we can fall in the standings? Because that's what you're definitely saying!!!!".