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Originally Posted by TOfan
There’s no chance the Flames are getting Carter Yackumchuk or Tij Iginla in any deal involving Andersson, Kadri or Coleman.
To have serious conversations about either player the Flames would need to have Parekh or Wolf on the table. Or perhaps their own first round pick in this years draft.
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Why is this the fallback argument to devaluing (or not understanding the value) of players and/or positions? No, not every trade needs untouchable assets from the Flames to make a good deal involving Andersson to work, that is not how trade values work.
I think the real problem with trading with the Senators for Yakemchuk as a return is that the Flames do not need another high profile RD prospect.
Trading with the Mammoth looks better because even if Iginla is untradable from their perspective, they have a logjam of young Cs (and wingers). Hayton (25) and Cooley (21) are their top Cs in the NHL right now and then they have Iginla (19), Beaudoin (19), Desnoyers (18) who are all Cs drafted in the 1st round. That is quite the logjam even if you value Beaudoin considerably lower because he was drafted in the 20s instead of the top 10.
I'm sure some people will say "just move them to the wing" but a lot of these guys are not interested in that and would rather get traded to a team where they can be a first or second line C instead of a winger. Also, the Mammoth have a lot of good young wingers too so there isn't exactly a bunch of room in the top 6.
Even if they kick Nick Schmaltz to the curb to make room for a young center on the wing but the other spots are taken up by Keller, Peterka, and Guenther. Not to mention But (#12OA 2023) is also knocking on the door to take that top 6 winger spot. It doesn't really leave a spot for Iginla and Desnoyers.
It makes sense for the Mammoth to move out a young forward to shore up their D. If Iginla is untouchable because he was the first ever selection of the Utah team then does that make Desnoyers available?
Then, for fun, we can get to the discussion about value difference between Andersson and Desnoyers (and the difference is not an untouchable asset on the Flames side).