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Calgary4LIfe · 12-02-2025, 09:24 AM

I really wonder what things Edwards has meddled-in. What direction he forced the Flames to move in (or hasn't), what moves he kiboshed or has forced, etc., etc. It often feels like just a bogeyman that people will blame for poor decisions.

Lots of teams are not successful, especially in Canada. Is it REALLY Edwards pulling the strings in the background, insisting on certain things or timelines?

For instance, in the period at the tail-end of the Sutter tenure, Feaster was brought-in. Sutter was then axed, and Feaster took over - but he didn't rebuild, which surprised many. Then he started to rebuild after his famous "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" speech (even though he was fooled twice). Things under Feaster and Weisbrod deteriorated - the organization started becoming a bit of a laughing-stock, right? Burke was brought in to give stability (and bring back respectability) to the organization. He hired fired Feaster and Weisbrod, and eventually hired Treliving. Now, Burke was famous for saying that he doesn't believe in long-rebuilds. Maybe Edwards had absolutely nothing to do with the last rebuild, and it was a combination of Burke and Treliving that wanted a more aggressive pivot back to contending (or they simply misread the team at the time). Can we really say that Edwards was behind that drive out of the rebuild? I can't say that.

I am just really curious. There is a lot of finger pointing at the owners - particularly Edwards - but I don't see any concrete examples. The one that I remember somehow was how he stopped Treliving from trading for Bishop (or maybe he didn't stop it, but Treliving couldn't contact him in time to go ahead with the trade?). If I am an owner, I would like to know about moves in advance (I mean, honestly, wouldn't you? That's part of the fun of owning a team, no?).

I am hardly defending Edwards here - I am just honestly curious as to concrete examples. It just seems to me like people point at him for the ills of the team's lack of success over the last few decades often like miasma theory from the middle-ages. That's what it seems like to me, but maybe I am just not in the loop as others are.

12-02-2025, 09:24 AM	#131
Calgary4LIfe Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Exp:	I really wonder what things Edwards has meddled-in. What direction he forced the Flames to move in (or hasn't), what moves he kiboshed or has forced, etc., etc. It often feels like just a bogeyman that people will blame for poor decisions. Lots of teams are not successful, especially in Canada. Is it REALLY Edwards pulling the strings in the background, insisting on certain things or timelines? For instance, in the period at the tail-end of the Sutter tenure, Feaster was brought-in. Sutter was then axed, and Feaster took over - but he didn't rebuild, which surprised many. Then he started to rebuild after his famous "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" speech (even though he was fooled twice). Things under Feaster and Weisbrod deteriorated - the organization started becoming a bit of a laughing-stock, right? Burke was brought in to give stability (and bring back respectability) to the organization. He hired fired Feaster and Weisbrod, and eventually hired Treliving. Now, Burke was famous for saying that he doesn't believe in long-rebuilds. Maybe Edwards had absolutely nothing to do with the last rebuild, and it was a combination of Burke and Treliving that wanted a more aggressive pivot back to contending (or they simply misread the team at the time). Can we really say that Edwards was behind that drive out of the rebuild? I can't say that. I am just really curious. There is a lot of finger pointing at the owners - particularly Edwards - but I don't see any concrete examples. The one that I remember somehow was how he stopped Treliving from trading for Bishop (or maybe he didn't stop it, but Treliving couldn't contact him in time to go ahead with the trade?). If I am an owner, I would like to know about moves in advance (I mean, honestly, wouldn't you? That's part of the fun of owning a team, no?). I am hardly defending Edwards here - I am just honestly curious as to concrete examples. It just seems to me like people point at him for the ills of the team's lack of success over the last few decades often like miasma theory from the middle-ages. That's what it seems like to me, but maybe I am just not in the loop as others are.