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Originally Posted by ST20
Both of you make a point and it emphasizes the problem in the original post that the terminology is silly and all over the place. If you define it as tanking, picking high and collecting as many futures as possible than the Flames have not been rebuilding. If you define it as in the turnover of the players and vets and getting younger then the Flames have been rebuilding but you can argue that Colorado has been re-building the same way since they won the cup. It's a silly term that we are putting too much focus on because every team is technically re-building every year as contracts come up, players age and the salary caps change. Every team faces a ton of turnover ever year.
I think what everyone is arguing about is the plan and the aggressiveness to be bad for a high pick. It doesn't help that the Flames actions and what they communicate around their plan does not align and they refuse to clarify and be upfront about it. The fans keep arguing because everything is up for interpretation and you can make a point for either side based off of things that have happened. The problem is you can't just look at what happened because they seem to shift their plans based on how the team is playing and the confusing communication around the plan gives you no confidence that the choices that were made were because of the plan and not because of an external factor.
We should just ignore the term and keep the discussion on how this team gets to be a competitor. If you look at it from that perspective it is hard to argue against picking high for multiple years vs. the "Dallas" model.
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This is helpful. Best way to make sure we pick high for multiple years is the following
1) trade Dustin Wolf, like now. That would send a clear message that they are trying to lose. Trade him for whatever you can get for him. Make it clear to all vets you are dedicated to losing. If this does not work do the same with Coronato.
2) trade Kadri for whatever you can get for him. Trade Ras for whatever you can get for him, trade Coleman for whatever you can get for him.
3) Weegar likely asks out then, you can probably trade him for whatever you can get for him.
That should be the logical plan that Team Tank should be pushing each and every day.