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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Fact: Both the Flames ownership and upper management have, just within the last two weeks, publicly stated that there is no interest in anything other than keeping the pieces we have, adding to them and finding a way to start winning games.
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When did the ownership speak publicly?
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Fact: Any vets that have been traded in recent years have been at the request of the players themselves. Either by demanding a trade or by telling management they had no intention of re-signing. A few of the players were even kept around until the very last possible minute, and were only traded when all efforts to convince them to stay had failed.
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What about Toffoli? What about Magiapane?
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Fact: When those above trades took place, the focus was on brining back a young reclamation project who could take the departing player's place, and continue the goal of trying to make the playoffs.
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What about all the picks they acquired? Including several 1sts and 2nds.
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Fact: The Flames have done none of those things, and often go into each training camp promising to come out with drafted players playing prominent roles, only for the obvious to actually happen: too many vets with multi year contracts taking up all the lineup spots, with young players used sporadically in and out of the lineup depending on injuries etc. Even then, the vets at the bottom of the lineup are often move up to fill holes, and the young call ups take their spots in the bottom six.
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What about their #1 goalie. What about their top winger.
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Fact: The Flames made a big deal of publicly celebrating Gridin and Parekh making the opening night roster, but those of us who have been around this organization for a long time knew that Gridin only "made it" because Huberdeau and Pospisil were hurt. We also knew that Parekh only made the team because the sending him back to junior would have made him unavailable to the Flames for the entire season, and he wasn't allowed to play in the minors. To none of us' surprise, he opened the season in the pressbox, and was used very sporadically in limited roles - because this team is not focused on developing Parekh at the NHL level, they are focused on winning games, making the playoffs and being a contender.
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Parekh also played in 11 games before getting hurt. Yes - a factor was that he couldn't play in the AHL which was probably the best spot for him. Absent that, they were handling him appropriately given the gaps in his game.
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I think you have a very liberal definition of the word facts.