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Old 11-12-2025, 02:07 PM   #92
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Originally Posted by Wolven View Post
So while you are putting a lot of work into tearing down my current favourite (even if your facts are not that great), perhaps you could instead talk about what you would rather see to build the party up? Who is the leader that you would support? Would you vote for Heather McPherson because she is from Alberta and has Notley's endorsement? Here is her kickoff video to round out the 3 front runners.
Since you are asking directly, Rob Ashton is the clear and obvious leader if you want to go to a predominantly pro labour party again. Being a union leader pretty much his whole life with ILWU, he is the epitome pro labour leader.

Unfortunately, this is precisely why he won't be elected. He's coming out of nowhere and hasn't been engaged in the NDP party nearly as much as other front runners. He was a very harsh critic of Singh's allegiance to Trudeau in the supply and confidence deal.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ndp...ling-1.7465485

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"The NDP, federally, is in really bad shape," said Rob Ashton, a British Columbia labour leader who is part of the broader union movement that traditionally backs New Democrats nationwide.

"It's pretty bad when workers of this country start running towards the Conservative Party."
Heck, the NDP complete implosion is one of the reasons he seems to be running, to get it back to what it should be doing, protecting workers locally and nationally instead of taking sides on global issues or on identity politics and segregating its own party. Unlike other want to be politicians, he has only recently gotten a Blue Sky account, preferring to use X until he started running and was likely told about Blue Sky. He's a worker's man who has spent his time on the field devoting his whole life to socialism and workers, unlike champagne socialists that plague the party.


Ashton is who they need, but that's precisely why it won't be him as the NDP leadership doesn't want what it needs, it wants someone to tell others how to think while also requiring a purity test to be considered part of the collective (which Ashton does not fit).

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...mp/ar-AA1NHkJA

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McPherson said at her Edmonton campaign launch on Sunday that the NDP needed to get back to its founding ideal of helping all Canadians to move forward.

“We need to stop shrinking into some sort of purity test, we need to stop pushing people away and we need to invite people in,” said McPherson.

But Winnipeg NDP MP Leah Gazan said that McPherson’s use of the term “purity test” was a not too subtle cue for party activists from equity seeking groups to quiet down.

“When I hear a leadership candidate suggest that you have to pass a ‘purity test’ to fit into the NDP, I am appalled and deeply disappointed. That framing is frequently used to dismiss calls for justice from marginalized communities — especially Black, Indigenous, racialized, 2SLGBTQ+, disabled, and immigrant workers — who now make up a major part of the labour movement and the working class,” wrote Gazan, in a lengthy social media post on Monday evening.

Gazan, who is of mixed Lakota, Chinese and Jewish ancestry, called McPherson’s rhetoric a tacit “ justification for white supremacy” that “centres the comfort” of “white, male, and able-bodied workers” over social justice.

“Rejecting so-called ‘purity tests’ isn’t about broadening the movement — it’s about narrowing it back to those who have always held power within it,” wrote Gazan.

5% in the polls is apparently too high for them and they will virtue signal their way to 1% if it means they can be right, workers issues be dammed.

Hot take, I don't think they survive the next election, their self-fulfilling egos are too high (similar to how the Green party pretty much imploded over identity politics and Gaza)

Last edited by Firebot; 11-12-2025 at 02:12 PM.
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