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Old 10-30-2025, 12:48 PM   #75
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That’s an interesting take on the convey people (calling them tards I guess is ok). The hypocrisy makes me smile. When the convey people called the vaccine mandatory virtually everyone here fiercely denied it. When they said “I’ll lose my job, my kid can’t go to daycare, and I can’t travel” the universal response was it was still a choice and not mandatory.
If it was mandatory everyone would have gotten it. The governments policies at just about every level around that time were questionable but I have yet to meet a single person who was forced to get a shot. Private jets would take you anywhere you wanted to go so long as the destination would allow you in. Commercial airlines can deny anyone service at anytime so that’s not a right. Employers can fire you for a lot of different things and vaccines were ruled on years before the pandemic even started. I get their frustration but the problem is they keep claiming the law was broken or that their rights were denied when whether they agree or disagree there was no legal basis for these claims.

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No teachers have lost any rights. Nothing is stopping them from staying on strike. If they disagree and are principled they should stay on strike. As far as a fascist state, the constitution was negotiated by elected premiers. They put in a notwithstanding clause in the constitution. This clause can and has been used for labour disputes. The UCP was democratically elected and in negotiating with a union used all the tools in their democratically obtained toolbox. No ones rights have been trampled. Take your 12% raise and be happy, or stay on strike, or move.
Nothing is stopping them from continuing to strike? You mean aside from the charges, fines and it giving their employer just cause to terminate their employment? Weren’t you just complaining about unfairness for people who felt they were forced to lose their jobs?

Teachers lost their right to collectively bargain and instead had a contract imposed on them by their employer. That was an actual right they had, unlike say being able to board a commercial airplane.

The UCP used every tool in the toolbox? They didn’t even use the most obvious solution that didn’t require invoking the notwithstanding clause, ordering a return to work and having the matter resolved through binding arbitration.
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