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Old 10-28-2025, 11:49 PM   #952
powderjunkie
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Originally Posted by iggy_oi View Post
Oh give me a break.



Do you seriously think that all, or even a majority of non-union workers, are going to walk out on their jobs and risk being fired with cause too? Yes or no.



You can’t organize yourselves in a meaningful way without unions?

I would argue that the non-union workers who make up a much much larger share of the workforce walking out on their jobs in protest would have a much larger impact than the much smaller share of the workforce who are union members doing so would.



Actually there’s lots of data to show the value of unions that predates all of this.

It’s not about “shrinking in the moment”, I’m just checking the unrealistic expectations people seem to have. Unions members don’t have the right to just strike on a whim and what many in this province are expecting of them needs far more support from the general population than just being keyboard warriors.

I would never shy away from fighting the absurdity that is the current ruling party but what you are expecting is going to have long term repercussions on the labour movement that you don’t appear to understand.

If the general public shows real proof that they care enough about the charter rights of teachers are being trampled by an ideologically driven government to do something of substance, I’ll change my tune. And I honestly hope that that happens. But based on recent developments in this province I highly doubt that the majority of the general public are willing to do much to help workers getting railroaded so long as it isn’t happening to them directly.

I guess we’ll find out tomorrow afternoon. Having read more about the timeline of how this played out in Ontario I’m slightly more optimistic that this can play out somewhat slowly. But smith and the UCP are way more unreasonable the Ford and his merry band of dip####s, so I think we may need to hit back even harder.

But honestly I was pretty dismayed to see our resident union booster lament the apparent weakness of unions at this critical moment. So apologies for lashing out. But I still think you took a weak line of argument there. You’ve never had more people willing to stand up for worker rights than this moment…it’s odd to hear you take a defeatist course and bemoan the lack of support
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