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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
So what you are telling me is that Harper and the Conservatives are stupid for not having them listed?
JoM: My question was - "what is the difference between negotiating with North Korea and the Taliban?". You replied by asking "what good it would do to negotiate with the Taliban"?. I assumed you were trying to distinguish a difference to help respond to my question.
As those have read the thread know, I support the mission in Afghanistan and don't think the Taliban can be negotiated with - there are too many criminal elements that have way too much to lose. What I've been trying to establish here is that it is a judgment call as to whether a group can be negotiated with or not. It's not as simple as "you just don't negotiate with evil groups".
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I guess my question to you is, what are you negotiating for with the Taliban? A return to power? A sharing of power? An invitation to participate in a democratic election?
Then I have to ask what the point is to any of that?
Frankly giving the Taliban any opportunity to return to power is an evil concept, they have shown what they're all about, and what they do to thier own people when they have power. Even discussing the concept of negotation with the Taliban to me is repugnant, and stupid.
The difference right now between the North Korean government and the Taliban is simple. Right now the North Korean's are in power, they can be monitored and to some extent contained. They have a massive army, huge amounts of tubed and rocket artillary and massive stores of complex binary chemical weapons and bio weapons.
The Taliban right now are a uncontrollable fringe group thats reponsible for the kidnapping and murder of civillians and the bombing of thier own people. Frankly negotiating with them gives them legitimacy, and thier only negotiating points are going to be a withdrawl of foreign troops so they can intimidate and murder thier way back to power, and recognition for thier party, so there's no point in doing anything but to continue to push them back over the Pakistan boarder.