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Originally Posted by jayswin
What the hell are you on about? You're talking about stats related to "cap hits under and over $10mil AAV" in regards to winning championships over multiple decades while the economic landscape evolves each year to match league revenue and inflation?? Do you even have a basic understanding of the salary cap and it's rise over the years? Like do you understand there were star players making $7mil in your golden years that won cups that would carry a cap hit of $17-$19mil AAV present day due to the current salary cap?
Like what kind of dumb theory is that when the cap goes up year after year and is going up at a crazy rate in the next few years? That's an absurd, silly, uneducated take on what it takes to win a Stanley Cup. If you have zero understanding of what a player's cap hit is as a percentage of the cap in that given year then what are you even doing saying what you're saying?
What are you, Lou Lamoriello trying to manage the cap in present day? "And I declared that there shall be NO PLAYER WITH A CAP HIT OVER $10MIL AAV CAP HIT!!! IT WORKED 15 years ago!!!!
*While every single star player on every team signs for over $10mil AAV, present day.
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Re-read what I said and process it, it was brought up recently by Elliot Friedman on his podcast. No NHL player has won a cup with an AAV over $10 million. It's not that the individual players are not worth it on the open market or their value isn't there it's that high cap hits in a cap world don't allow you the same flexibility to build your roster. Just because you pay players more money, doesn't equal more winning or production.
Since this is an Oilers thread. There were seasons when Mcdavid's production was higher when he was making $900k than when he was making $12.5 million. Just because the Oilers paid him 1300% more money doesn't mean he can produce or be 1300% better overall . It also doesn't mean he isn't worth the $12.5 mil as his production, value and revenue earnings for his team.
It's that asset/cap allocation that needs to be spot on in the NHL. Some how the Oilers have managed to be in cap hell for years yet have incredible value contracts from a production standpoint. Mcdavid, Leon, Hyman, RNH. Even their goaltending has won a lot of games and playoff rounds for the $3.5 combined AAV.
To bring it back to the Flames, outside of the lucky 04 season, the farthest they have gone in 36 years is in 14/15 when they won a game in the 2nd round. Gio, Johnny and Monny were making a combined $6mil AAV. Move forward a few years and they were making $20 mil AAV ($19.9 actually) Just because everybody is being paid fairly and their worth doesn't mean it allows for proper team building for a winner in the NHL.
Other sports are different in a lot of ways. The NHL requires young, elite, explosive talent on team friendly contracts in order to win a cup and multiple championships.