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Originally Posted by FanIn80
Linholm wanted 8M/yr, and when we offered it, he still said no. Conroy himself even said that we finally offered him what he wanted, but he still wanted out.
I agree that Tanev would have stayed for more money. That's literally what I said.
The tweet from Zadorov's agent about wanting to go to Toronto was posted right after a bad loss, and at the time he went off the people in the room who wanted Sutter gone are the ones who are happy with losing.
Thanks for reminded me why Markstrom was mad. He told the team he was open to either being traded or extended, and then got mad and actively wanted out when it was leaked that he was being shopped.
Don't know what your point is though. Trading vets for youth/picks is the hallmark of a rebuild... but vets wanting out and the team trying to convince them to stay but eventually relenting and trading them for youth/picks is not a rebuild.
What if Lindholm accepted the 8M/yr offer? What if we did pay more for Tanev to stay than what his value was? What if Hanifin had been the one that relented and accepted one of our offers that we kept coming to him with during the 7 months we tried to sign him? What if no one leaked that we had phone around about Markstrom, and he never got mad enough to demand a trade, and since Tanev, Lindholm and Hanifin all re-signed it made more sense to keep Markstrom and make Wolf his backup? What if Lindholm accepted his offer right away, so we knew how much money we had left for the others, and were able to get to Zadorov before he got mad?
The reality is that the only reason we even look like we're rebuilding is becuase the core that we had didn't want to stay. It's not becuse the Flames decided to move on from them.
The reason I'm behind Conroy is because Tre would have replaced those guys with other vets, but Conny didn't want to do that. The facts are that he tried to keep the vets, failed and refused to replace them with other vets. Those are the facts. The part I choose to make up in my own head is that it was ownership that told him to try to keep the vets, and Conny was happy that they all turned us down becuase it allowed him to force ownership to move on.
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Surely on the internet there is a quote of Conroy saying the Flames offered Lindholm what he wanted, if he said it.
But if he never said it it probably is not on the internet.
Me, I am very confident he did not say it.
But whenever I point out that the Flames are doing the biggest sell off veterans rebuild in NHL salary cap history nobody can even point to one team that has sold off more vets for futures in the past 20 years. It is weird because one would think there would be an example.