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Originally Posted by Fuzz

This just sounds like copium because you don't want to acknowledge scientific studies showing things like increased diabetes risks. Go ahead and enjoy your DPZ, but it's pretty weird to be ####ting on others' views when they are actually based on science and not beverage enjoyment. Avoiding some artificial sweeteners could actually help lose those excess 30 pounds, too.



https://med.umn.edu/news/university-...-tissue-volume

Right from your study

Previous findings from randomized controlled trials (RCTs) and cohort studies
Contrary to our findings and those of other observational studies, RCTs of ArtSw have demonstrated modest but inconsistent weight loss effects, which are likely due to controlled or reduced caloric intake among the individuals participating in these trials. A 2014 meta-analysis of 15 weight management RCTs in children and adults over a median 12-week time course showed that replacing sugar or sugar-sweetened beverages with ArtSw or ArtSw-containing beverages resulted in modest but statistically significant weight loss (−0.80 kg), reductions in mean BMI (−0.24 kg/m2), or lower fat mass (−1.10 kg) [9]. Likewise, a meta-analysis of 29 intervention studies showed that replacing sugar intake with ArtSw resulted in an approximate 1 kg reduction in body weight over a median study period of 12 weeks [10]. And yet, when ArtSw intake was compared with controls of water or no dietary change over a median 12-week study period, a 161 daily increase in caloric intake per SD of ArtSw intake was observed—though no accompanying change in weight status was apparent over the relatively brief study periods [10]. In evaluating the above evidence, it is important to consider the study designs, sample populations, and trial periods. Because many of these trials were testing ArtSw as a replacement for sugars and or were conducted in tandem with weight loss programs, they likely do not capture real-world ArtSw consumption in free-living adults over a period of decades.

Replacing water with diet pop drinks = be fatter.
Replace regular pop with diet drinks = lose weight.

This is what I'm talking about. Everyone talks about the risks of Aspartame but it's an alternative sweetener. It's disingenuous to argue diet drinks vs water because they're not the same thing. It's arguing that bicycling to work is bad for the environment because the carbon footprint to make a bicycle is higher than you just walking, and ignoring that the real alternative is driving a car.