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Old 09-21-2025, 12:24 PM   #26833
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Originally Posted by Slava View Post
Are sub lists a good way to determine this? My wife was on the sub list years ago, and it’s not great. I can see a lot of qualified teachers who don’t want to work that way.

I guess it’s anecdotal, but I have a hard time thinking that we have no teachers coming in because the pay isn’t good enough.
Teaching is a country wide market place with need everywhere. We used to see the balance of out of province teachers come here when we paid more, now we pay less, have worse work conditions and work for a hostile/ incompetent employer.

We graduate 1500 teachers who will go into the education sector somewhere per year. First of all, if they all stayed, it is not nearly enough to support a labor market of 50 000 + workers. 20% of those are over 50 and leaving the profession at a rapid rate. The other 80% are also leaving the profession at an alarming rate. And our population is exploding. All of the leading indicators for teacher staffing in the province are going in the wrong direction.

The lifeblood of alberta teacher staffing used to be out of province graduates. But now, why would they come? I can't think of a single reason. The one BC lady i met in the last 5 years left after 1 month. She couldn't believe how bad it was and just left.

Furthermore, if you graduate here, why would you stay? Get paid less to get fed a turd sandwich from your employer. Hey guys, did you think teaching a hackneyed curriculum and endangering queer kids would be part of your job description? No? Well it is here and only here. Wait, where are you going?

The sub shortage is pronounced and is already effecting classrooms in a non marginal way, but there are other signs. Last year, we couldn't find a full time pe teacher until October. We literally had to attach a second break period to get someone. I've heard from principals that if a warm body walks through the door, they're getting the job.

Soon that will literally be the case as Quebec has 30 000 non licensed teachers in classrooms. We want so badly to be Quebec in so many ways, soon we will be able to check that one off the list.

Last edited by Major Major; 09-21-2025 at 12:32 PM.
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