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Old 07-25-2007, 03:31 PM   #59
Slava
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Originally Posted by fredr123 View Post
Being guilty of a crime is different than being convicted of a crime. At least in the case of the reverse onus provisions for bail, we're talking about someone who is only charged with an offence. With respect to the minimum sentence provisions... well, that part of me that takes pleasure in reading esoteric case law recalls what happens when minimum sentences have been imposed in other areas of the law.

But at the same time, your statement (and the ramblings of JofS ) beg the question: what are victims rights? I would hazard a guess that you are at a minimum talking about the right to feel safe and secure. Not sure that would ever be possible and I'm not sure Joe Blow on the street feels entirely safe and secure anyway. But what else? The right to extract vengance upon the convicted perpetrator?
That is the whole crux of their argument. JofM wants to see these people punished, and the fact that this doesn't reduce crime in the first place is of no consequence.
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