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Originally Posted by The Fonz
I removed the trans parts cause, as you said, "technically not gay people" so I don't think it's relevant.
The "God's perfect law" quote is also from that same Kirk/Rachel discussion. No, I don't think he was being sarcastic and saying God's law isn't perfect - I think he was simply saying you cannot cherry pick vague bible verses to support homosexuality when there is a very direct, irrefutable bible verse which states that it is not supported under God.
I personally, support homosexuality. I'm also an atheist. So Kirk's position that homosexuality is wrong because the bible says so, does not resonate with me. Reason I'm asking on this claim of "he advocated for the killing of gays" is because it's being repeated everywhere as justifcation (1 of them) for why his murder is a good thing - but I've yet to find where he's advocated for ever killing a gay person - I have though come across footage and quotes from him where he is welcoming and kind to many gay people.
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But it is relevant.
Look I'll concede the on the stoning gays thing.
Let's not argue about his exact words and how they could be interpreted. I'll give you that one.
But the part about trans people that you omitted is an example where he was very clearly advocating violence against people.
I suppose you could argue maybe he meant segregation, but that isn't exactly a loving, inclusive stance.
That is a pretty clear allusion to, and a call to violence.
So sure, he didn't call for violence against one group, just a different one.
BTW that group, is the one that right wing people have pivoted to to scape goat and hate monger against since it's become a losing proposition to do it to gay people.
Every argument you hear about Trans people today (sexual predators, having an agenda to turn people into them, grooming children, etc, etc) are the same arguments used against gay people for decades.
They know they've lost that battle, so they've moved on to the next vulnerable group that they can demonize.