"At no point did I mention Tesla or Elon Musk except when i used the term most associated with Tesla's self driving car efforts."
I don't oppose self driving and advanced safety features. Some companies are working in the proper manner towards that. I can't wait until I can trust my car to drive for me. What I do oppose is a company that has been claiming for a decade their cars can drive themselves, and permitted anyone dumb enoguh to pay $10k to be beta testers on public roads, with zero instruction on how to beta test, the safety issues involved, and after many repeated failures to follow even the most basic of instructions, not having their ability to risk the lives of other users revoked permanently.
As you said, insurance will be a key indicator. And if you haven't noticed, no insurance company, including Tesla's own, has agreed to take any responsibility for Tesla's "self driving" and until they do, it's all just a Elon Kool-Aid BS. How many more years of being lied to do you need to go before you catch on that he's lying to you?
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