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Old 08-18-2025, 12:49 AM   #115
Acey
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Originally Posted by Johnny199r View Post
Is Air Canada subsidized?
No.

I've seen a few US airline comparisons in here, and I am in no way defending Air Canada (or WestJet who pay their flight attendants even less) but operators in Canada are taxed and levied with fees at an absurd rate compared to US airlines so it really is an apples to oranges comparison.

Working for a US airline I would make double what I make in operations currently. It's not just flight attendants, and it's not just Air Canada. My union's contract with WestJet expires in 2032... I'll be the only one on the picket line in a Flames jersey while the rest of my colleagues are in teal.

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Originally Posted by White Out 403 View Post
If Air Canada is too big where they can't afford to be shut down for a few days because of a dispute with their workers...
They are indeed losing tens of millions each day this continues, but I don't believe anybody has made this claim. Unlike WestJet, Air Canada's financials are all publicly available so it takes less than 5 minutes for anybody to determine they were not 48 hours from collapse.

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Originally Posted by jayswin View Post
I still don't understand how that is legal. You show up to work, you clock in and you get paid. Are they considered contractors, is that how they get around it?
They get around it by simply having minimum guaranteed pay, i.e. what is effectively a salary. I am no way saying they are sufficiently paid but in simple terms it's just salaried pay within the bounds of a contract their union negotiated with the airline.

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Originally Posted by btimbit View Post
Also, I'm pretty sure AC crew bases are Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal. Not exactly cheap places to live
Calgary is also a flight attendant base, but not a mainline pilot base. A common reason for YYC-LHR to be delayed is because it's always Vancouver-based pilots operating it and their inbound deadhead from YVR is delayed.

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Originally Posted by Bonded View Post
AC also lied to me as they said express flights were covered by different union.
"Air Canada Express" is not a thing that actually exists so that is maybe part of your confusion but Jazz flight attendants have a different contract with CFAU not CUPE that doesn't expire till the end of the year (same day as WestJet) and they have indeed been operating throughout the strike.
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